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The Medicare Time Bomb: Addressing a $60 Trillion Unfunded Liability
Published · Featuring Robert E. Moffit, PhD of Grover M. Herman Center for the Federal Budget at the Heritage Foundation
Robert E. Moffit, PhD, discusses Medicare's $60 trillion unfunded liability and the need for bipartisan reforms at the Grover M. Herman Center for the Federal B
Robert E. Moffit, PhD, a Senior Research Fellow at the Grover M. Herman Center for the Federal Budget at the Heritage Foundation, discusses the urgent need for Medicare reform in the latest episode of the Health Policy Podcast. The conversation addresses the significant challenges posed by healthcare costs, entitlement programs, and the federal budget, particularly focusing on the $60 trillion unfunded liability of Medicare.
WASHINGTON — July 24, 2026 — Robert E. Moffit, PhD, joined the Health Policy Podcast to discuss Medicare reform and its implications for the federal budget and healthcare costs. The episode highlights the urgent need to address the unfunded liabilities of entitlement programs, which pose a significant challenge for future generations.
Moffit emphasizes the staggering financial burden of Medicare, stating, "With Medicare and Medicaid together today, we are spending about $2 trillion on both of those programs." He warns that the unfunded liabilities of Medicare alone amount to $60 trillion, which translates to approximately $179,000 for every person in the United States. This financial reality poses a grave concern for younger generations, particularly Gen Z, who Moffit describes as "going to get hit by a fiscal freight train."
The discussion also delves into the complexities of managing entitlement spending. Moffit notes that the automatic nature of Medicare spending, which is not subject to the annual appropriations process, creates challenges for Congress. He states, "This issue stimulates profound fear among members of the House and Senate because it's big, it's complex." The episode underscores the need for bipartisan cooperation to reform Medicare and ensure its sustainability.
The Grover M. Herman Center for the Federal Budget at the Heritage Foundation focuses on promoting sound fiscal policies and responsible government spending. It conducts research and analysis to inform policymakers and the public about the implications of federal budget decisions.
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About the Guest

Robert E. Moffit, PhD — Senior Research Fellow
Robert E. Moffit is a Senior Research Fellow, Health and Welfare Policy, for the Grover M. Hermann Center for the Federal Budget at The Heritage Foundation. Moffit long has specialized in health care and entitlement programs, especially Medicare. He brings to the reform effort his government experience as a senior official of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) during the Reagan administration.
About the Health Policy Podcast
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